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Post by Etaoin Shrdlu on Jun 16, 2024 10:56:25 GMT
I'm sure there's more pretence about music than quite a few other things. But it would be strange if there were no such thing as genuine hatred of particular pieces.
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Post by Pacifica on Jun 16, 2024 14:14:38 GMT
I don't remember ever being seriously annoyed by a song stuck in my head. So maybe I've always kind of liked the songs stuck in my head, or at least not hated them. In fact, there is music I dislike, most usually because I find it boring, but I'm not sure I've yet come across any that I really, really can't stand hearing.
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Post by Pacifica on Jun 16, 2024 14:21:30 GMT
I'm not sure I've yet come across any that I really, really can't stand hearing. I just recalled something that perhaps comes close. Ever since childhood, I've found the song "Le Petit Âne gris" unbearably sad. Every time my mother started singing it I would say no, no! Nothing to do with its tune; it's the lyrics, obviously. |
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Post by kizolk on Jun 16, 2024 15:37:25 GMT
I don't remember ever being seriously annoyed by a song stuck in my head. So maybe I've always kind of liked the songs stuck in my head, or at least not hated them. In fact, there is music I dislike, most usually because I find it boring, but I'm not sure I've yet come across any that I really, really can't stand hearing. I used to intensely dislike a lot of songs and artists, but with age my tastes have widened a lot, so much so that there aren't many songs I would say I "hate". But some definitely rub me the wrong way, especially if I sense laziness or insincerity. But the songs I absolutely don't care for are much more common. But I don't have a particular issue with saying I hate this song, for instance, and it may be the one I hate the most: I file it in the "lazy and badly executed" category. He has a terrible sense of rhythm, for one thing, which is particularly serious when you're a rapper. I just recalled something that perhaps comes close. Ever since childhood, I've found the song "Le Petit Âne gris" unbearably sad. Every time my mother started singing it I would say no, no! Nothing to do with its tune; it's the lyrics, obviously. I didn't know it; sad yes, but pretty good. |
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Post by Pacifica on Jun 16, 2024 15:48:05 GMT
But I don't have a particular issue with saying I hate this song, for instance, and it may be the one I hate the most: It doesn't inspire me with hatred. I would just put it in the "meh" category. |
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Post by Pacifica on Jun 16, 2024 15:49:54 GMT
I would just put it in the "meh" category. Which I guess has always been the largest category in most domains. |
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Post by Pacifica on Jun 16, 2024 15:56:41 GMT
In fact, I think it even has some relatively catchy parts. There are some musics that I find just... the opposite of catchy... what shall I call it... boring, flat, unmelodic, without a rhythm that's in any way rousing our moving at any point.
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Post by kizolk on Jun 16, 2024 16:17:59 GMT
I doesn't inspire me with hatred. I would just put it in the "meh" category. But the lyrics. They're not just bad: they're the collection of random thoughts that went through his mind on a particular day. Neither the form nor the substance is compelling, and while individual sentences or groups of sentences might hold meaning, the whole is incoherent, the brain crumbs left behind by a mad man in his pointless journey. And many other things, but I'll resist the temptation to write an essay. In fact, I think it even has some relatively catchy parts. The chorus, while badly executed, kinda works. In fact, I think it even has some relatively catchy parts. There are some musics that I find just... the opposite of catchy... what shall I call it... boring, flat, unmelodic, without a rhythm that's in any way rousing our moving at any point. Give us names! I may start a Favorite Songs thread at one point, but bad songs are interesting too. |
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Post by Pacifica on Jun 16, 2024 16:35:21 GMT
No particular name springs to mind immediately. I regularly hear stuff like that without necessarily noting the names of the artists or the titles of the pieces. But it would include most classical music, for a start, with a few notable exceptions... though the exceptions are perhaps baroque rather than classical properly speaking. The thing you shared the other day, with the messy part, would also qualify. |
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Post by Pacifica on Jun 16, 2024 16:38:27 GMT
This one is pretty boring:
Also, the lyrics... *cringe*
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Post by Etaoin Shrdlu on Jun 16, 2024 16:38:52 GMT
Can't quote selectively even in desktop mode, but didn't you (kizolk) once say that you usually didn't bother too much with the lyrics, when I found them impossible in some song? Can't remember what it was, but probably English.
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Post by Pacifica on Jun 16, 2024 16:48:01 GMT
For my part I much prefer good lyrics, of course, but sometimes the tune is so good that I can kind of overlook the flaws in the lyrics (though I still think "if only...").
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Post by kizolk on Jun 16, 2024 16:52:12 GMT
This one is pretty boring: Indeed, but I've heard far worse. Can't quote selectively even in desktop mode, but didn't you (kizolk) once say that you usually didn't bother too much with the lyrics, when I found them impossible in some song? Can't remember what it was, but probably English. True most of the time and for most genres, and I couldn't even tell you what some of my favorite songs are about, but I do tend to pay attention to the lyrics in French rap. I first started listening to rap in the early 2000's, and one of the things that attracted me was the often political nature of the lyrics, and so rap became associated with interesting lyrics in my mind. But things have changed a lot in terms of lyrics. |
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Post by Etaoin Shrdlu on Jun 16, 2024 18:55:58 GMT
I like words. I like them to mean something. I know that often they don't, in songs or in real life. Still, hope blooms eternal.
The first Wagner anything that I liked was the Wesendonck Lieder. I vividly remember that it was the selection of a particular radio programme, and I was up a ladder, so didn't immediately turn it off.
The songs were good. But the lyrics? I knew that Wagner was proud of writing his own libretti, but frankly they were crap. So who was this unknown German poet whose words he was setting to music? Which were really crap squared, or maybe cubed.
Oh, OK, that explains it.
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Post by Pacifica on Jun 17, 2024 20:29:25 GMT
This Belgian soprano died on Sunday and I've had a bit of this in my head on and off since then.
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